للاستشهاد: اذكر معرّف المقطع (مثل M015-01) واسم المناسبة والتاريخ والتوقيت ورابط التسجيل. المقاطع المعلَّمة «سمو وزير الطاقة» فقط هي ما نُسب إلى سموه في التفريغ؛ ما سواها لمتحدثين آخرين. التوقيتات تقريبية حسب التفريغ.
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النص / Transcript
[M015-01] · متحدث آخر: المقدمة(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:00:00 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
In fact the Saudi energy minister told me that the cuts will amount nearly 20 million barrels a day; he confirmed what President Trump just said when taking into account pledges by other G20 nations and purchases into reserves. Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman telling me just how he start of a deal this really is.
[M015-02] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:00:21 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
In all my 33 years of being the Oil and Energy Minister, I could not have conceived that the whole world would congregate to try to attend to this extraordinary situation.
[M015-03] · متحدث آخر: المقدمة(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:00:35 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Your Highness, tell me, because I have spoken with the president about this, and the president suggested to me that it was more like a 20% cut, not necessarily or a 15% cut, not necessarily a 10% cut. So, are you going to cut 10 million barrels a day or 20 million barrels a day, sir? Which one is it?
[M015-04] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:00:54 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
I think the president got it right; that we brought in 20 million, and I am very grateful for the work that the president and the secretary of energy did, and the people around the president were extremely helpful, I also need to mention our other partners with Russia. I would also have to mention the king himself was engaged, Prince Mohammed was the true hero of this whole thing, he put in the time and effort, the fact he was more or less even in some aspects, especially this serious method. He was physically negotiating certain elements of this, the dominant and major components of this deal.
[M015-05] · متحدث آخر: المقدمة(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:01:45 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
When you first, we were talking about prices and seeing prices move lower. You did not have COVID-19 as an issue, and then COVID-19 has shut down demand around the world. So was that part of the push for you knowing that global demand had dried up because of this virus?
[M015-06] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:02:18 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
We have a record to show; ever since the 23rd of January, we have been warning people that this is going to be maiming, this is going to be big and this is not going to be left for a country or even a group of countries to attend. Unfortunately, with all the messages we have been doing ever since, as I said, 23rd of January until the 6th of March, our calls, our warnings were unheeded. When came 20 March, things even convoluted in a worse situation where people did not find even the space or the stomach to try to stomach a bigger cut and the market was left unattended
[M015-07] · متحدث آخر: المقدمة(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:03:04 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Your Highness, one of the reasons I think that the market has not been reacting to this, I mean you just said a moment ago it could be up to 20 million barrels a day that you are cutting; this is a big number and yet the market is not reacting to it because the market does not believe the cuts will happen I guess. There is no really accountability here, I mean if Moscow does not cut, are you still going to cut? What has to keep you guys from continuing to keep this promise?
[M015-08] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:03:32 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
you had a 23 or 24% increase ever since last week, it is going to be challenging to all of us, those producers that have committed to proving to the world and to those who are engaged in this market that we mean business and we are serious. Now talking about Saudi Arabia, I think we have a record that we are the first to sign up and we are the last to leave our commitments. I am sure that what hold the industry to the last month is going to be there for quite some time; that people would know exactly that if they do not perform, that lack of performance would hurt them as opposed to benefit them.
[M015-09] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:04:25 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
With that in mind, we also within OPEC+, have our regimentation of monitoring and we have a system that enables us to see on a month-to-month basis how everybody is doing. Now, on the other side of the story, with the practical and pragmatic approach of cutting, we still have, for example, the IEA, you have EIA, they are all institutions that have a good record of numbers and they do publish numbers on regular basis. We have the G20 and we have just assigned an ad hoc team to continue monitoring and continue reviewing. So, it is not going to be left for a chance here or a chance there.
[M015-10] · متحدث آخر: المقدمة(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:05:16 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Do you think that if you do not see the kinds of cuts you are expecting from Russia, Mexico, or even the United States, are you going to keep your commitment?
[M015-11] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:05:25 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
I think we are all in dire need of maintaining our commitments; none of us will gain if we do not fulfill our commitment. I am still hopeful, as I said earlier; we would not have got into the deal. We have not we would not have signed up for it, if we had a fringe of concern that people would not support that commitment. But as I said also earlier, we are the first to sign and we are the last to leave.
[M015-12] · متحدث آخر: المقدمة(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:05:57 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
You announced that your production cost is $10 a barrel. That's, of course, obviously one of the lowest in the world, but bail companies to make money on this, do you need for your fiscal budget $70 a barrel of oil?
[M015-13] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:06:12 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
I have a story to share with you and also to share it with our friends at the platforms and be it at the old school, the shell producer. All of us as producers are suffering, even Saudi Arabia. Yes, we are prudent, we have been cutting budgets, we have been constraining programs and we have been doing every like every other producer doing. In that, we are more exposed to oil prices than others, but that does not mean that if you have a 70-year so-called budget, you cannot have the liberty and the ability to reconfigure yourself to make sure that you become an efficient producer and also a prudent financier of the budget. People go through this situation, look at any company in the world, ExxonMobil, Chevron, BP, and Shell, all went back to their boards, shell project and shell agreements. So, as a country, they do also go through these processes. So to think that we would be targeting a price simply because we have this budgetary requirement, we have the prudence; we have the resilience in Europe. I would refer you to Modi and Fitch.
[M015-14] · متحدث آخر: المقدمة(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:07:47 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
I understand what you are saying. Let me ask you this, because of the whole COVID-19 situation, this coronavirus has stopped the world in its tracks and, of course, we are expecting a severe recession. If you listen to Jamie Dimon this week saying, it is likely we will see a severe recession. Oil is telling us that as well certainly with where the price is, when would you expect global demand to start increasing again? When do you expect the world to be back in business and the price of oil to start moving on just supply-demand fundamentals like the airlines needing to buy more oil?
[M015-15] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:08:26 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
This is one of the fundamental issues that people are not yet grasped, which is probably the energy sector is the most hit sector out of all of this. Why? Because of mobility. I was talking to some journalists yesterday and I was telling them that jet fuel has been hit, Diesel has been hit, gasoline is being hit and bunker fuel is being hit. So if you look at all the sectors and how much of an impact this virus is making over the economy, even within the economies, we would see the energy sector is being hit the most. So where you can recover? I think the more you see the lockdowns being released and more movement happens and mobility starts to thrive, I think you will start seeing that. We still will be under the custody of that situation.
[M015-16] · متحدث آخر: المقدمة(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:09:39 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Final question, Your Highness. I know that the US shale industry has been doing very well and there were a lot of reports that Russia wanted to put that industry out of business. This does represent competition for the oil producers of the world. Were you looking to put the shale industry out of business?
[M015-17] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:09:58 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Never, I have friends and pals and they are part of this, we have a good relationship with them. I was in public in December many times saying we like them, we want to prosper with them, and we never get engaged in a so-called zero-sum game or and therefore and therefore, they might have gotten that wrong impression, but I think if they calm down, and look at how we are behaving over the last 50 years, I do not think they would find a better partner than Saudi Arabia.
[M015-18] · متحدث آخر: المقدمة(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:10:41 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
I know that the president thinks very highly of you, Your Highness, and has talked to you a lot during this period. Can you tell us what the president said to you?
[M015-19] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت — · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15
No. He was talking to His Majesty, King Salman, and His Highness, Prince Mohammed. I have never had the honor and pleasure of meeting him or talking to him, but it would be a privilege
[M015-20] · متحدث آخر: المقدمة(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:11:07 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Your Highness, I so appreciate your time today. My final question here, as the president and people try to speculate on what is going to happen in terms of these production cuts, do you think Russia will keep its promise to cut?
[M015-21] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:11:22 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
I have no reason but to believe them and I have no reason but to believe the president. I think he is doing a great job. I asked him a few days, what do you think the president is doing? I said the president is doing what the president should do or the head of state should do. This is a sector within the oil and gas sector, this is a sector that is creating job-creating communities, contributing to GDP and growth, solving a serious issue when it comes to energy security, and enhancing prosperity within certain states. I would not say anything but show me the president that would not be attentive to all of the above. So, I salute him and I salute our friends when they shine on every platform in the US, and again I would repeat that: focus and look around and see who is your true partners in this endeavor.
[M015-22] · متحدث آخر: المقدمة(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:12:30 · Fox Business Network Online · 2020-04-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
My very special thanks to Royal Highness Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman on the major historic oil deal. We have got much more ahead this morning; markets are low, we are going to take a short break and come right back.