للاستشهاد: اذكر معرّف المقطع (مثل M129-01) واسم المناسبة والتاريخ والتوقيت ورابط التسجيل. المقاطع المعلَّمة «سمو وزير الطاقة» فقط هي ما نُسب إلى سموه في التفريغ؛ ما سواها لمتحدثين آخرين. التوقيتات تقريبية حسب التفريغ.
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النص / Transcript
[M129-01] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:00:16 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
It is sunny day in Riyadh today, but you always bring forth such an exuberant and radiant presence and so I say to our audience what you say what you said to those reporters in Vienna I advise you all to enjoy the sun gracing our stage today.
[M129-02] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:00:36 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Who told you I'll talk in English. I think your mom and I had conspired against you last night.
[M129-03] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:00:54 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Oh! wow I was not informed of this.
[M129-04] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:00:54 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
I told you are going to shock her and ow her by changing the language of the event not only to Arabic or Saudi but classical Arabic, but even if you laugh you, you should laugh in the same manner as we do in our TV.
[M129-05] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:01:19 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
I will refrain, I will refrain. Our audience your, your Royal Highness I’m in all seriousness very deeply honored and privileged to be sharing this stage with you.
[M129-06] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:01:29 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Wait! Wait! Now you insisted that it to be English so I'm going to ask you, you want it to be the Saudi English and better if we can make it female a how Saudi English or we do it in Arabic English that's another tongue to it, or we could do it because you graduate from Oxford, I could twist my tongue to be a graduate Oxford person, or we go for what some people think that being modern you have to do [tongue twist sound].
[M129-07] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:02:12 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
I've heard that a lot in my lifetime since moving back from the country of [tongue twist sound].
[M129-08] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:02:18 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
It is your choice what is good about us in the energy sector we are very diversified sector. So we sing and we play the music that gets us there with our Ambitions.
[M129-09] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:02:41 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
We'll do whatever makes you most comfortable your Royal Highness, but I do want to note to our audience that your only request in the leadup to the session was to keep it as spontaneous and as free flowing as possible and so in accommodating your request I very diligently put together a list of questions.
[M129-10] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:03:00 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
This is how spontaneous it could?
[M129-11] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:03:09 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Okay! I'm afraid we're probably only going to get to the first one so I'll start with that and then we'll see where the conversation takes us, but I want to ask you your real highness something that I think has been on a lot of people's minds about your gracious personality you renowned your Royal Highness for your wit and your charisma and you’re charming often candid sense of humor.
[M129-12] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:03:33 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
I think it's that is not an opinion that is shared by my wife.
[M129-13] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:03:34 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Maybe we can influence that opinion on stage today.
[M129-14] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:03:35 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Please do!
[M129-15] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:03:36 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
But I want to ask you Royal Highness for all of the young people listening who are maybe taking life too seriously preoccupied with their next career move, the next school they're going to get into can you speak to them your Royal Highness about the value of investing in Social and emotional intelligence and in cultivating a sense of humor.
[M129-16] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:04:03 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
I have to be honest as I always try to be as honest it was not by deliberate act it's just you know my life took me in different directions, including being an outcast being a person that is not part of the thing. So, I was in the side a sideline person and I've said it quite a few times and I now see the value for being a sideline person. If you can use the time to improve your qualities so you don't sit tight and let these things pass through you have to continue to be a resilient fighter by saying I will have the time I will have the opportunity but meanwhile I can't sit on the side waiting for that to happen I have to develop myself and continue developing myself to ensure that when the time comes you are prepared to take that opportunity. It just so happened that I am one person amongst so many thousands of people some of those people are lucky and they get their opportunities maybe at an earlier time and maybe at a later time I was fortunate to have this opportunity at a later time, but there are those who had had their opportunity and there are those which is the French would say “C'est La Vie” would not have their chance.
[M129-17] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:05:41 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
In all of the above we have to make a reason for our existence we are human we have brains we have facilities we have emotions, we have to have a life we have to have families we have to have ambitions we have to have our children to look up to us of being something that makes a meaning for them to ensure that they have a father figure as they say. That father figure has to happen with sincerity and you're dealing also with a generation now that are smart and very smart and have other tools to make him even more smarter. So you're not dealing with the child of yesterday you're dealing with the child of today that is hooked with everything that goes on in the world. So their facilities are much more diverse their capabilities are much more diverse and their link with the world is in in a matter of a second in their hand. Every person now has a mean to be part of the world by choice. Be it at the age of six or be it at the age of 90. If you are not cognized of that I don't know what you're doing. So talking about taking it easy taking it no I didn't take it easy I just I took it as good as it gets I keep repeating that you know life is about wanting to be yourself and you're not faking It and if you fake it don't think that you can smart outsmart the world. I think it's only idiots that would think that they are so much of a narcissist I think that think that I can I have the capability to condescend and think that I can fake it and I will get away with it. You are not going to get away with it. So yes I have enjoyed my life in every way I can I have to admit and I owe it to them that I have a wife that is just part of my bones and the children that they are the dream of my life. So I'm lucky!
[M129-18] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:08:29 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
And they're very lucky to have you, your Royal Highness. You've touched on a number of occasions on your distaste for the narcissistic personality and you've been very vocal about removing oneself from one's role and realizing that you serve a greater purpose and a greater cause. I think another trait that you are renowned for truly is your humility, and I think it was on the MISK stage that you once said and I quote “I am an embodiment of mistakes” and I think that the more accurate statement is that you are the true embodiment of what it means to be down to earth for public service, what keeps you so grounded despite your status and power and position and what role do you think self-awareness plays in cultivating humility?
[M129-19] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:09:16 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
you want it in one word?
[M129-20] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:09:25 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Sure
[M129-21] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:09:25 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Self-confidence. I know who I am, whom I belong to, what I need to do and I'm not shameful of sharing it but I know that if you want people to work with you, you have to reach out to them with the greatest amount of humility and the sense of colleagueship because if you do reach out to them in any different way, you're going to be the pharaoh of the future and I haven't seen a pharaoh succeeding. I've had my fair share with narcissist and egotist and all of the above and the condescender and I went through the bad experiences with them and I've worked with people that worked with narcissist, condescender and all of the above. I saw what it did to me and to them shame on me to repeat what I was suffering from. So, you have to whatever you go through especially the bad experiences you have to promise yourself that you shall not repeat it when that opportunity comes your way. In fact that opportunity comes your way for you to bring adjustment and I would call it even Justice for people that are to be remedied from what they went through. Can I add sure, tell me anything that this country is doing now that does not require the thousands and thousands of people to work and labor hard to achieve it. How on earth could you deliver all of these things without the team spirit that needs to be the first and foremost important pillar for that to happen.
[M129-22] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:11:26 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Of course your Royal Highness I couldn't agree more and I think if everyone aspiring to make true impact as Dr. Badr Al Badr bad mentioned in his remarks the youth being part of the vision and the transformation as they rise up with their drive and ambition, it's important to see role models and examples of people who have made it and yet maintain a sense of groundedness and of Public Service. Based on just the earlier part of this conversation your Royal Highness and following you for many years you strike me as living the truth most authentic version of yourself almost unapologetically if I may say.
[M129-23] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:12:11 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Because I don't have to apologize about anything I don't have anything to hide you know there are people that have lots of things to hide few things to hide. I have nothing to hide. I mean again you know what they call it I think I'm in a process of self and I'm peace with myself, and conscious of what you are doing, and you don't have anything to hide or you are ashamed of doing then be yourself.
[M129-24] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:12:51 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Very well said your Royal Highness and I think it's easier said than done that the values that one embodies are the values that one projects and lives by and I think you're a shining example of that. Like you mentioned your highness living in true alignment and harmony with who you are I think is one of the most powerful attributes that any young person can aspire to achieve. So what can you say to young people who are very early in the Journey of self-discovery in terms of how can they attain that level of alignment with themselves.
[M129-25] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:13:29 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
As for professionals you mean?
[M129-26] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:13:31 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Professionals but I think the inner your inner self with your outer self.
[M129-27] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:13:38 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
It's all applicable even a professional footballer or a or professional engineer or a doctor it's all the same. Again, the first and foremost thing really focus on something that you excel and find your passion and what you need to do because if you find that passion it will be the propeller for you to make everything else. You become so occupied so much conquered (I pronounced it in the Oxford way) of doing the right thing and you will become so ambitious that you then move to I want to do the 360 degrees. Like for example in energy who said energy is about petroleum engineering chemical engineering or electrical engineering, it's it encompasses all sorts of disciplines. That passion will drive you to become reading current articles on the Wall Street about politics of the Middle East and other places being a financer being an auditor being all of the above. You become an incubator, I saw your interview with Mo and you said you move from things to this and then I got excited when you said something about hydrogen, but you see it's this this kind of spirit yes that you go from discipline to discipline because you want to understand the 360 that will give you the confidence. If you are a confident person, you will reach out this peace within yourself and that peace and that confidence will allow you to be what you are before people because again you have nothing to hide and you have nothing to be ashamed of in fact you are yearning for the opportunity to showcase what you really are.
[M129-28] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:15:38 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Beautifully said your Royal Highness. While we're still dwelling on the subject of sincerity and authenticity uh I believe you coined the term bedouiness, Your Royal Highness, I quote we meaning the kingdom are transitioning yet maintaining our bedouiness and as we sit here in Diriyah, the birthplace of the Kingdom, I think it's only fitting that we pay homage to our heritage but I think the young people listening from all over the world not just young Saudis. I think this is a pertinent question on young people's minds is what is the role of youth in upholding the values of culture and tradition as we live in a world that's becoming increasingly homogenized by technology?
[M129-29] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:16:34 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
I have a living example in front of me Jerry. He is Sicilian he did not forfeit his Sicilianism, he is proud of being Sicilian but he is also proud of being a builder with us to our ancestors old town. For me is an embodiment of what a global person needs to be. Now in that discussion we had I did say the very pillar for doing all of the above is tolerance, when people learn how to be tolerant they become so much of an accommodating have or acquire accommodating characters which enables them to interact with everybody to show their true colors with for everybody and to become instead of a vessel of one way street, it will be a vessel of incubating all of the above. By which then people would start becoming more of a global persons as opposed to the narrow minded person. But I also want to emphasize doing that it doesn't mean you're discarding your history, your heritage your true color, we cannot change our colors. I hope we don't want change our religion yeah and we cannot uproot ourselves from where we came from so we have to actually showcase who we are what we are and more important how relevant can we can become. If we are given the opportunity in a tolerance world that can accept all creeds, all religions, all societies or whatever it is. That should be our calling that's why I have to keep emphasizing, yes we are bedouins and we will continue to be bedouins because it's not our choice it's the fact. But are we proud of being so? Yes, we are. Can these bedouin become a Global Citizens? Yes, we are proving it. Can we compete in the global and all sorts of arenas? Yes, we can. Is bedouinism something that would let us down? No, it would actually ignite us. I remember once said I am a tick in a MISK event and I think is an instinct but I was not shy of saying or comparing myself to a tick talking about bedouinism. Now the sandstorm com, people would try to cover, we used to enjoy it, because this sand storm it tell us that rain is coming.
[M129-30] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:19:52 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Your mom is laughing because she knows it. Bedouins we celebrate this sand, this little tiny sandstorm with the hope that rain will come and wash it. We have waited for these moments of rain and we've waited for them to wash us and it is this time we are this is the true washing time to prove ourself that we are no different than others.
[M129-31] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:20:28 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
your Royal Highness there's one very important point that I want to close our discussion with if you allow me you've been a longtime vocal advocate for youth everyone has heard you across a number of platforms you've referred to youth as the true energy resource driving this nation. You've injected your Ministry with an abundance of youthful energy but what strikes me as a woman is the extent to which you've empowered and employed a lot of young women in a traditionally male dominant industry, to the extent that when you speak about your colleagues and you give women precedence my female colleagues before my female colleagues and I don't know if that's deliberate or subconscious.
[M129-32] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:21:12 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
Just ask anybody for the male that works in the energy ecosystem who would ever dare to say my male colleagues first. Hell will come loose. Again, I cherish that you know in one event his Royal Highness the Crown Prince Prime Minister Prince Muhammad did say it in an event he said with his finger he is the one who does a lot for women and I could not have been more honored than being called as such. But I see it, anybody who wants to see it come along and visit us. I am truly honored to say that when I walked as a Minister to the Ministry, we had six females and they were locked in into a room with those what you call them pin things that you have to do the pinning thing to go to go in and pinning things to come out. Trust me I remember vividly that they had three days, Mohammed, I think you were part of that team, who tried to figure out what kind of toilet facility they should have and there was a quarrel for three days about finding it's like finding Nemo, “finding a toilet for the ladies”. That what I inherited in the old building. Now I think we passed 400 and at least 10 that's for sure. I tell the guys in ARAMCO percentage wise we and SABIC, Abdul Rahman is here, I said percentage was we are better than you as a Ministry, so the regulator now is pushing the regulated to ensure that they at least beat the number of the regulator.
[M129-33] · سمو وزير الطاقة(HRH the Minister of Energy) · التوقيت 00:23:29 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
But I have to say it was not done, I owe it to them and people need to hear it. The quality of female that we have in the ecosystem is so competitive that even males are having a hard time to compete with. I'll give you another example, again I have been honored by his Majesty the Crown Prince to be the chair of the board of trusty at KFUPM. Again, I would repeat it that at the University even a kitten would not come around that facility. Two years ago, we allowed undergraduate student, they had graduate, but undergraduate was two years. This year check the numbers almost 50% of the admitted students at KFUPM are female. To be honest to be candid, I'm hoping that next year that the majority will become female just to make the point. I'll give it to for everybody here, you really want this country to work choose one pillar, choose one KPI, let meritocracy govern because it's the only fair way to measure up.
[M129-34] · متحدث آخر: المحاور(other speaker — not the Minister) · التوقيت 00:25:09 · جلسة حوارية بعنوان (الآن يبدأ مستقبل الشباب) في منتدى مسك العالمي · 2023-11-15 · مشاهدة عند هذا التوقيت
On that beautiful note your Royal Highness it's been an absolute pleasure and privilege thank you for sharing your wisdom and your infectious sense of humor with us please join me all in thanking his Royal Highness for a wonderful session.